Paper patched ammo is inherently satisfying to shoot, for some reason. There are at least 20 states that have restrictions of this kind. Im looking for one load that will shoot both barrels together at about 75 to 100 yards. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs. Best slug shotgun for deer hunting indepth outdoors. Paper patch bullets were once the most popular type of bullets in the 1800s. I have killed many deer with mine and most have never taken a step and at best just a couple. Buy your hunting mentor a gift they will treasure forever. I think it will be the best on deer, so it is time to order 3 or 4 new boxes. The slugs are a snug slip fit inside the fiocchi paper hulls and the thickness of the paper hulls makes the jump from the hull to the bore less stressful on the slug my theory. The answer is yes, you can reload slugs on a shotgun loader. Greetings, well, tried to slug the barrel, but the slugs fell through without slowing down.
Discussion in hunting started by dfaugh, oct 7, 2005. I cant say that the paper patched ammo is significantly more accurate than the greasers, but the difference is definitely there, at least in my hunting rifles. My gosh, when you add in the flex capabilities that mossberg now offers, you can put a tactical stock on that old 500 you have, with a pistol grip, too. Until recently conventional wisdom held that using a 20gauge shotgun for deer hunting was a bad idea. I have looked around for them at gun stores and online and have not been able to find any. I currently have a benelli nova that is used for primarily used for trapskeet shooting. Smooth bore shotgun go with slugs the ones with the grooves in the slug. The internets best resource for shotgun information. In another words, a 20 ga slug will kill a deer much farther out than you can likely hit a deer.
Casting, patching and loading their paper patch bullets in the hunting field. So for a long period in the mid1800s paper patched bullets were in vogue but this didnt suit the americans. I have been told they will kill to 200 yards, but on paper the energy starts dropping significantly at 180 yards. Paper patched bullets a blast from the past sporting. In this video we highlight some of the wildest homebrewed shotgun slugs we have ever shot over the years. In recent years, shotgun manufacturers have made tremendous strides in developing accurate projectiles for deer hunters today who use shotguns. Paper patched some slugs, they needed some pushing to get through not excessive, and measured. If i keep this up, i will have to sell a rifle or two to fund the slug shooting. Buffalo hunters used this type of bullet to hunt millions of buffalos. If you shoot at a hard running deer you have no regard for wildlife and are just out to kill something and obviously dont care what it takes to do so. Slug it out for shotgun deer hunting great days outdoors. The first effective modern shotgun slug was introduced by wilhelm brenneke in 1898, and his design remains in use today.
Apparently no hunters prior to these magnumssabots ever actually shot a deer, the slugs must have bounced off, and the hunters with under 1200 fps slugs used the butts of their shotgun to club the deer. Shooting on paper will increase you confidence level or prompt. Ive got a property 660 feet long, with the far 360 feet being dense forest. The attitude seems to convey as well that anything before the magnumhigh velcoity craze must have bounced off the game. The best quality optics to buy when youre on a budget.
I have the lee mold for slugs and have loaded a bunch just to practice with. You might be better off by using regular paper instead of masking tape or slitting the masking tape at least part way with sabot slits so it tears open easily. Slugs are designed for hunting large game, selfdefense, and other uses. The 15 best shotguns for deer hunting outdoor life. Take a 9 paper plate and shoot it at various ranges. The second target was shot another day at 100 yardsyou can see the progression. The bullet sheds the paper patch in pieces as it exits the muzzle. When saboted slugs and rifled shotgun bores came on the scene in the 1980s, some folks believed the. As said, the sabot slugs are for rifled barrels and give poor results in a smooth bore shotgun. The place you buy the slugs and sabots from should also provide the reload data.
Nonexplosive slugs are also used for crowd control. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. However, theres little consensus about the subject. I am somewhat new to hunting with a shotgun, and looking into hunting whitetail deer in an area that does not allow hunting with rifles. Due to my lack of attention to detail, i fail to read where you want to shoot foster style slugs in a shot up through a rifled barrel. Im fiquiring on buying a selection of different slugs to try. The remington sluggers are a little light for deer at 50 yards. The chart below shows how far shot and slugs from a shotgun can potentially travel. Slugs do not deflect like a rifle when going thru brush, and nothing has more stopping power than a 12ga. A shotgun with a slug barrel is most likely your best option. Use the same plates to range your slugs the range where you can hit it 3 out of 4 tries is your maximum. I had thought about getting a lyman slug mold but they are reportedly way under bore size and need a plastic shot cup. From heavily engineered projectiles, to slugs made out of food. The foster style slugs are still used by some hunters today and can be effective on deer out to around 75 yards when shotgun deer hunting.
I would rather not buy a new rifled barrel for shooting slugs for deer, due to how expensive new barrels are for the. Im curious about people who hunt deer with a shotgunslugs rather than a rifle. The magic number for energy delivered at target is ftlbs. The larger hole below that was made by four slugs passing through the paper. I am not sure if it matters much but i will be shooting it out of a remington870 express. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. The shotgunslug combination provides a legal, if shorter range alternative. If they are made could someone please tell me where to get them. Shooting shotgun slugs in a smoothbore musket nesslers. Hey everybody, i recently just purchased a mossberg 500, the combo deal from big 5 that comes with a vented 28 inch and a 18. This is s short video of me shooting a 160 yard gong over cross sticks with my muzzleloader. Top 10 most diabolical homemade shotgun rounds youtube. The gun is a lanber ou, 21 inch barrels both rifled. While slugs can be extremely accurate, they move much more slowly than a rifle bullet, and that has an impact on how you sightin your shotgun for.
Hello all i was wondering who all out there hunts deer with a rifled barrel shotgun. For those unfamiliar with the nessler ball, a brief history is that these were bullets, similar to later shotgun slugs, developed to increase the range of smoothbore muskets during the crimean war. Today, gregg brought out some brenneke special forces slugs which he bought. Three inch chambers with 1 14 inch forcing cones, open sights. One reason hunters use slugs is to hunt deer in states that ban the use of rifles andor buckshot ammo. I have a mossberg 500 that i hunt geese and duck with but have been thinking about buying a rifled barrel for it to hunt deer this season.
Always in the forefront of deer slug technology, we redesigned our 12gauge slugger rifled slug for a 25% improvement in accuracy. The gun used is a gamo varmint hunter hp 1,400fps spring. The load im using lyman sabot slug is federal top gun shells, aa12 wad and 29 grains universal. Add the shotgun slug to the list of endangered species, although its not one a lot of people will miss. Im planning my first deer hunt in a shotgun only state this year. Slugs were big, slow and soft, which was fine for closerange shots at standing deer. I had been thinking that i hadnt seen a new slug from any manufacturer in a while and. A modern shotgun slug is a heavy projectile made of lead, copper, or other material and fired from a shotgun. When hunting in builtup or semirural areas, hunters are generally required to use shotgun slugs. How does the accuracy of a modern shotgun firing slugs. Back in the 80s and 90s we were told and we gun writers repeated it, because it made an easy lead that shotgun slug only zones were spreading, and someday soon all deer hunting east of the.
Hastings makes a very good slug barrel for remingtons also if you want to check out different slug barrels. Back then, slug shotguns had little more than a front bead for aiming. However, if youre hunting dense settings with no real possibility of shooting over 75100 yards, a smaller, more compact shotgun with a slug barrel is the perfect deer gun. It is too big for a wad in slug design and if your barrel choke is close to that diameter its fine to load and shoot it, first drop the slug through your tightest choke setting to see if it a very loose fit or just slides without much rattle.
When saboted slugs and rifled shotgun bores came on the scene in the 1980s, some folks believed the fullbore or rifled slug was made obsolete. The entire argument for me was laid to rest one time years ago, long before i came to mossberg, on a early november whitetail hunt in oklahoma. How far would a deer slug from a remington 870 travel. I can get both on silhouette paper at 25 yards in a pieplate size group. If youre like me, youve pondered the suitability of. I can load 45 rounds of grease groove ammo in 52 minutes, but it takes 2 12 hours to load 45 rounds of paper patch. Besides areas that are shotgun only what are the advantages. I cast 1 oz lee key drive slugs and after a year of testing, i found some accurate loads. We did more testing with the heavy hitter slugs and bring you along to see the results. I cant image a slug making it through there but im curious.
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